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28 <h1><a name="top"></a>Grml User Survey 2011</h1>
32 <p>In the beginning of 2011 we started a Grml user survey. From our
33 point of view it was an overwhelming success. As promised we will
34 share the results and discuss the feedback we got in detail.</p>
36 <p><abbr title="Too long; didn't read">tl;dr</abbr>? Skip to the <a href="#conclusion">conclusion</a>.
37 Interested in <a href="#toc">all the answers</a>?</p>
41 <p>First of all some numbers regarding our user survey. 28
42 questions, answered by more than 300 users in a timeframe of less
43 than one month. This means more than 8000 entries. On the day of the
44 announcement more than 70 people answered our survey. For our last
45 <a href="http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=survey07">user survey back
46 in 2007</a> 103 people answered in one month. Long story short: it
47 was an overwhelming success.</p>
49 <p>Due to the many open questions we got some interesting, fun and
50 exciting answers. We also got some nice use cases for Grml.</p>
52 <p>The overall quality of the provided answers, especially in the
53 custom texts were astonishing and we all enjoyed them.</p>
57 <p>Obviously some questions could have been asked in a better way,
58 for example the DVD question. Instead of asking "should we
59 produce DVD Images" we could have asked if its worthwhile to
60 keep the 700MB limit for the CDs. Nevertheless we now know that a
61 DVD-image is not really important and worthwhile as most of you want
62 to get CD-sized images these days.</p>
64 <p>As we used Google Forms we did not get the IP address of the
65 participant. So we weren't able to gather geographic information
66 about the participants. We fixed this after we noticed the problem
67 by adding another question asking participants about their
70 <p>We did not ask about contact information but it would have been
71 worthwhile in some cases to get back to our users and provide
72 answers or hints. We did not change the survey as we were unsure if
73 its appropriate to ask for contact information in a survey.</p>
75 <p>Most answers did not result in immediate actions but we already
76 discussed the inclusion of provided packages and had a look at
81 <p>We used Google Forms and had many "Other options"
82 available. Unfortunately Google automatically translates predefined
83 labels. This means for e.g. persons from german speaking countries
84 the "Other" label was called "Andere" or the
85 submit button "Absenden". It would be great to disable
86 that feature or provide proper multi language form support in Google
87 Docs. Also the evaluation of custom answers turned out to be a lot
90 <h2><a name="conclusion"></a>Conclusion</h2>
92 <p>Our strong focus on system administration tasks has been affirmed
93 by our users in 2007 and today. We will continue to aim to be the
94 best speciality Debian-based distribution for these use cases.
95 Desktop users will continue to be supported on the same level as
98 <p>While our user base is strong in Europe, we must expand further into
99 US and Asia. A first step, namely new mirrors closer to these
100 regions, has already been made.</p>
102 <p>A lot of awesome software has been suggested and some of it
103 already made it to the daily Grml builds. We will continue to work
104 on adding new software, but the important "One CD" (700MB)
105 limit is obviously a hard barrier. </p>
107 <p>We still want your feedback on all topics, but especially from
108 users of non-Debian-based distros. What do you like, what's missing,
109 what's bad for you? <a href="http://feedback.grml.org/">Send and
110 share your feedback</a> or <a
111 href="http://grml.org/contact/">drop us a message</a>!</p>
113 <p><strong>Thanks to everyone taking part in our survey!</strong></p>
115 <h3><a name="toc"></a>Table of Content - the Answers</h3>
120 <li><a href="#since_when">Since when have you been using Grml?</a></li>
121 <li><a href="#stumble">How did you stumble upon Grml?</a></li>
122 <li><a href="#located">Where are you located?</a></li>
123 <li><a href="#knowledge">Level of Linux knowledge</a></li>
124 <li><a href="#operating_systems">Which operating systems do you use?</a></li>
125 <li><a href="#distributions">If you are using Linux, which distributions do you use?</a></li>
126 <li><a href="#project_name">Did you start your own Open Source project?</a></li>
127 <li><a href="#project_areas">Are you involved in any FLOSS projects? If so in which areas?</a></li>
131 <li>Company & Use case
133 <li><a href="#environments">In which environments do you use Grml?</a></li>
134 <li><a href="#company_name">If you are using Grml in a company, what is the name of the company?</a></li>
135 <li><a href="#company_size">Size of the company</a></li>
136 <li><a href="#company_industry">Industry of the company</a></li>
137 <li><a href="#company_quote">Is there anything you and/or your company would like to say about Grml?</a></li>
141 <li>Questions about Grml
143 <li><a href="#bootmedia">Which boot media are you using for Grml?</a></li>
144 <li><a href="#using_grml_for">Ever used Grml for...</a></li>
145 <li><a href="#creative_solution">What's your most creative solution with Grml?</a></li>
146 <li><a href="#why_using_grml">Why are you using Grml?</a></li>
150 <li>Tools & Programs
152 <li><a href="#using_programs">Which programs did you use at least once?</a></li>
153 <li><a href="#bootoptions">Which bootoptions do you use?</a></li>
154 <li><a href="#windowmanagers">Which windowmanagers do you use on Grml?</a></li>
155 <li><a href="#tools">Which tools would you like to see on Grml?</a></li>
161 <li><a href="#flavours">Which Grml-flavors make sense?</a></li>
162 <li><a href="#dvd">Should we produce a DVD image instead of a CD image?</a></li>
163 <li><a href="#ship_windowmanagers">Should we ship multiple window managers?</a></li>
164 <li><a href="#debian_stable">Do you use Grml packages on Debian-Stable?</a></li>
165 <li><a href="#what_should_be_changed">What else should be changed in Grml?</a></li>
171 <li><a href="#wishlist">Wishlist for improvements on Grml</a></li>
172 <li><a href="#famous_last_words">Did we forget anything? Any famous last words?</a></li>
180 <h3><a name="since_when"></a>Since when have you been using Grml?</h3>
182 <img src="./img/since_when.png" alt="*" />
184 <p>We seem to have a healthy mixture out of longstanding as well as
185 newer users which we consider a good sign to provide high quality
186 together with enough innovation.</p>
188 <h3><a name="stumble"></a>How did you stumble upon Grml?</h3>
190 <img src="./img/stumble.png" alt="*" />
192 <p>Most users come from suggestions by friends or on IRC as well as
193 independent websites. Just about a quarter stumbled upon Grml
194 through official media press. We consider this result as a healthy
195 combination and a proof of the rule how important word-of-mouth
196 recommendations are. Our favourite custom answer: The internet.</p>
198 <h3><a name="located"></a>Where are you located?</h3>
200 <img src="./img/location.png" alt="*" />
202 <p>The first 65 survey results lacked this question and 5% didn't
203 answer this question. As the chart shows we cover all continents but
204 Europe is the place with the largest user base. At the last Grml
205 developer meeting we decided to put effort into providing mirrors
206 outside Europe. Thanks to people providing mirrors rit.edu (New
207 York/US) and ftp.tw.debian.org (Taiwan) our mirror coverage improved
208 a bit already, but our efforts toward improving Grml's coverage
209 outside Europe won't stop.</p>
211 <h3><a name="knowledge"></a>Level of Linux knowledge</h3>
213 <img src="./img/linux_knowledge.png" alt="*" />
215 <p>Most people classify themselves as experts or intermediate. This
216 fits well in our focus. We think we are on track with our user
219 <h3><a name="operating_systems"></a>Which operating systems do you use?</h3>
221 <img src="./img/operating_systems.png" alt="*" />
223 <p>99% of Grml's users use Linux and interestingly BSD got a better
224 result than Mac OS. Amongst the answers in "others" have
225 been Solaris, Haiku, Netware, HPUX, AIX, MS-DOS/FreeDOS, irix, Palm
226 OS5 and Symbian S40, whereas Solaris was the leading answer in
227 "others" with an overall count of 23.</p>
229 <h3><a name="distributions"></a>If you are using Linux, which distributions do you use?</h3>
231 <img src="./img/distributions.png" alt="*" />
233 <p>With a leading 86% our users are Debian users. Nearly half of
234 them also use Ubuntu (or any Ubuntu based derivative) whereas other
235 Linux distributions have a coverage of less than 20% each. The
236 answers "others" included 21x Arch Linux, 10x Grml (hehe!
237 :)), 5x (Free/Open/....)WRT, 3x LFS, 3x Knoppix, 3x Maemo, 2x puppy,
238 2x MEPIS, 2x Mint, 1x DSL, 1x Slacks, 1x Aptosid, 1x Archbang, 1x
239 Quirky, 1x Mandriva, 1x Scientific Linux, 1x Sabayon, 1x OpenBSD
240 (huh? :)), 1x SLiTaz, 1x CrunchBang, 1x AntiX. As a result we can
241 say that most of our users seem to be used to Debian(-based)
244 <h3><a name="project_name"></a>Did you start your own Open Source project?</h3>
246 <p>We got 32 answers, which namely included the following Open
247 source projects: bley, wApua, unburden_home_dir, xpt, Hag
248 (hag-linux.eu.org, Grml derivative or rather a remix BTW, now kinda
249 dead, but I still have some plans), baculafs, undbx, HOG-Man
250 (scientific software), more than 15 ones (the currently most popular
251 being jpdftweak), variety of very small projects, IdyllaOS,
252 timecalc, rffc, bwm-ng, immv, FAI, i3, goldbach, FVWM-Crystal, FDTD,
253 Nagiosms, MirBSD, My personal gooogle, SNPpy, bixfile, ngircd,
254 MikeBrother, HME, gocr, octopus-window-manager, wedabecha, libgpmi /
255 v7us / libmawk / scconfig / libporty and a lot more.</p>
257 <h3><a name="project_areas"></a>Are you involved in any FLOSS projects? If so in which
260 <img src="./img/floss_projects.png" alt="*" />
262 <p>Most of our user are directly involved in development with code
263 62%, documentation 47% and support 44%. Quite some are also involved
264 in packaging (36%) which is no surprise given that Grml is based on
265 Debian and got featured several times on planet.debian.org.</p>
267 <h2>Company & Use case</h2>
269 <h3><a name="environments"></a>In which environments do you use Grml?</h3>
271 <img src="./img/environments_for_grml.png" alt="*" />
273 <p>Nearly all Grml users do use Grml for personal use (94%), whereas
274 53% use Grml in a business environment. 19% of Grml users are using
275 it in an educational environment. This means that most people use
276 Grml for work as well as in their personal environment. Maybe we
277 should provide some examples how to use Grml in different
278 environments (Rescue system for virtualised systems, deployment
281 <h3><a name="company_name"></a>If you are using Grml in a company, what is the name of the
284 <p>We got several names of companies using Grml. Amongst them are
285 established universities as well as well known companies. Thanks for
286 your feedback, we plan to provide the list through a separate
287 webpage in the near future.</p>
289 <h3><a name="company_size"></a>Size of the company</h3>
291 <img src="./img/company_size.png" alt="*" />
293 <h3><a name="company_industry"></a>Industry of the company</h3>
295 <p>No big surprises - most companies are IT related. However there
296 are some non-IT related industries like ecology, healthcare, online
297 gambling and tourism as well. Now we are sure that Grml is used in
298 all different kinds of industries and well accepted.</p>
300 <h3><a name="company_quote"></a>Is there anything you and/or your
301 company would like to say about Grml?</h3>
303 <p>First of all, thanks for all the nice and interesting answers.
304 This was one of the most fun parts to read in the whole survey.</p>
306 <p>Some example quotes:</p>
310 <li>The simplicity of grml often astonishes people around me when
311 I am doing a 1:1 backup using dd or recovering their presumably
312 lost data with testdisk</li>
314 <li>Pure Awesome in tiny ~700 MB :D Seriously, lots of big thanks
315 for maintaing such a great project! Also; kudos for the great
316 naming convention!</li>
318 <li>A real Swiss Army Knife for Linux sysadmins.</li>
320 <li>Best utility Live distro ever.</li>
322 <li>It just fits. Everything is in place and ready to use. From
323 drivers to firmwares (like wifi, fibre channel), programs:
324 ddrhelp, irssi and many others not available elsewhere</li>
326 <li>Reliable, stable and powerful Linux live CD/USB distro. Great for
327 auto write blocking hardware for forensic acquisitions</li>
329 <li>In the past I used knoppix as rescue, since I know grml, I do not
330 need knoppix any more</li>
332 <li>Great work. Thank you so much. Btw, I have just "chsh
333 --shell zsh" because of your great zsh configuration</li>
337 <h2>Questions about Grml</h2>
339 <h3><a name="bootmedia"></a>Which boot media are you using for Grml?</h3>
341 <img src="./img/boot_media.png" alt="*" />
343 <p>CDs are still the most important boot media at 79%, followed by
344 USB with 76%. This means we are on the right track with providing
345 easy to use solutions with grml2usb and dd for our users.
346 Network/PXE setups with 28% and hard-disk installations (18%) are
347 not as common as CDs and USB sticks but still often used. Especially
348 considering the fact that network/PXE environments typically serve
349 larger environments we consider 28% to be an excellent value.</p>
351 <p>Answers filed under "Other" included:</p>
357 <li>ISO on harddisk if the main installation is broken.
358 <strong>Comment:</strong> now directly supported with grml-rescueboot</li>
360 <li>DVD <strong>Comment:</strong> someone using grml2iso</li>
362 <li>cd image in a VM</li>
364 <li>multiboot usb (grml2usb/local.cfg for the rescue)</li>
366 <li>image via toram= (good choice to use debian-live)</li>
368 <li>virtual cd drive. <strong>Comment:</strong> seems to be also
369 used in a virtual environment (IBM RSA, HP iLO,...)</li>
371 <li>iso on hd from grub2. <strong>Comment:</strong> check out grml-rescueboot</li>
373 <li>Remote boot via iso.</li>
375 <li>isofrom (hard disk)</li>
379 <li>.ISO within Virtual Machine</li>
381 <li>Compact Flash</li>
383 <li>Boot from iso</li>
387 <p>We should promote the <a
388 href="http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2011/01/07/booting-iso-images-from-within-grub2/">grml-rescueboot
389 feature</a> more prominently as it seems that there is a market
392 <h3><a name="using_grml_for"></a>Ever used Grml for...</h3>
394 <img src="./img/using_grml_for.png" alt="*" />
396 <p>While we had a look at the answers we immediately noticed that
397 most people (>90%) used Grml for more than one task. This shows
398 that Grml is quite flexible and can be used in several different
399 areas. While the high percentages for Recovery (92%), Hardware
400 diagnostic (77%), Backup (62%) and Network analysis (52%) are no big
401 surprises, the percentages for Forensic (40%), Linux Desktop (29%)
402 and Programming (16%) truly are. This result means that we should
403 keep the Linux Desktop and Programming tasks in mind though the main
404 focus is still on the classic use cases.</p>
406 <h3><a name="creative_solution"></a>What's your most creative solution with Grml?</h3>
408 <p>Ok guys, again. Your answers were really cool and nice, and we
409 are sorry to only give you some quotes but it would take up several
414 <li>My desktop system is basically a USB disk that boots my
415 (remastered) grml (one partition contains the grml & grml64
416 ISOs) and has all user data on another partition (grml-crypt is
417 another neat tool to secure that data). That way, I have my
418 desktop with me everywhere.</li>
420 <li>We set up a grml PXE server in a VM on VSphere 4, because if a
421 client doesn't boot, grml is the first thing we need.</li>
423 <li>PXE-Server which automatically installed Debian via FAI to
424 multiple machines.</li>
426 <li>Grml makes it easy to configure and manage a network of 20+
427 servers: 20+ vmware machines all boot from a single copy of
430 <li>grml64micro, a stripped down remastered version of grml to fit
431 into some few free MB in /boot </li>
433 <li>When I started using it, it was primarily for installing
436 <li>We wrote some auto-install scripts that can non-interactively
437 install certain flavours of Linux on the computer we booted grml
440 <li>I like my phone-home image which boots up with X and opens a
441 tunnel to me. I had nothing to hack since you guys have so many
442 possibilities to modify behaviour. THANKS!</li>
444 <li>automatic boot into an remote application server for idle/unused
447 <li>plug in grml stick, plug in network card, boot it, it will ask
448 you what system you want to install using dialog(1) then it
449 automatically partitions the disk, pulls all the packages and
450 custom software, makes it bootable, configures IP addresses.
453 <li>public surf station (kiosk)</li>
457 <p>Most solutions are related to deployment and rescue. But some are
458 also using it for other purpose like a modified desktop systems.</p>
460 <h3><a name="why_using_grml"></a>Why are you using Grml?</h3>
462 <p>Also just a short overview but it seems that the most important
463 reasons for using Grml are:</p>
467 <li>Based on Debian</li>
469 <li>Command-line interface</li>
471 <li>Ships all necessary command-line tools</li>
477 <p>This means we are on the right track. An excerpt of the
482 <li>Great terminal tools, great choice of X environments (I use
483 dwm and evilwm), very well configured out of the box to discover
484 and give me information on any box or network I boot it from.</li>
486 <li>because it`s based on debian, it early had amd64 support, zsh
487 rocks, in rescue mission its important to have a distri, which
488 supports LVM2 and raid systems oftb, the team reacts very quick on
489 suggestions and answers</li>
491 <li>moved from Knoppix to grml (less X and Office -> more SHELL
492 and Tools) - love debian - love the many, many grml-.... scripts
493 that make it so handy to use - love the names (Funkenzutzler 4 the
496 <li>It's debian-like; I couldn't get debian-live to work for me; It's
497 easy to customize; It contains *all* the packages I needed</li>
499 <li>Meets my basic requirements for a rescue distribution: Debian
500 based, bootable from USB with data persistence, customizable...
501 and it has Emacs!</li>
503 <li>I love GRML. I love what you guys do. I love GRML. I really,
504 really love GRML. This distro has deeply affected my interest in
505 Linux by providing me with out-of-the-box customized professional
506 linux awsomeness. I will never be as good as you guys at anything
507 that you do, I will never be as smart as you guys and I have a
508 fraction of the talent. I could never write a single one of these
509 scripts or customizations.I will never be a professional
510 programmer and I will never be as good at anything as you are at
511 this. But you have allowed me to see what you do and get right in
512 there and do it to, you have allowed me to this extremely advanced
513 stuff that I would never have the chance to access otherwise, let
514 alone even be aware of.</li>
516 <li>1) It boots without X11. 2) Every tool I ever expected to be there,
519 <li>release names :)</li>
521 <li>GRML converted me to zsh. Now I use GRML because of zsh.</li>
523 <li>We tried other live system, of course Knoppix and Kanotix, but Grml
524 just rocks the machines better!</li>
526 <li>Several reasons, in no particular order: * Debian based. *
527 Updated regularly (recent kernel, recent userspace readily
528 available in daily snapshots). * No GUI bloat I wouldn't need
529 anyway. * Excellent zsh config (I now install grml-scripts by
530 default on most of my systems). * Approachable developers. *
531 grml2usb. * grml2ram. * 64bit flavour available.</li>
533 <li>At a first view it seems to have a lot of possibilities in one
534 place - ready to use, The best I ever have seen, I may say:
537 <li>This was the more interesting part to me: "Grml includes a
538 collection of GNU/Linux software especially for system
539 administrators and users of texttools"...</li>
541 <li>Great hardware support and includes all the tools a sysadmin
546 <h2>Tools & Programs</h2>
548 <h3><a name="using_programs"></a>Which programs did you use at least once?</h3>
550 <img src="./img/which_programs.png" alt="*" />
552 <p>Unsurprisingly grml-x is the most used program. Second most used
553 Grml script is grml2usb which is a little bit surprising as it means
554 that for installing Grml to an usb stick it wins over the dd(1)
555 method for many people. grml-network respectively netcardconfig is
556 also expected as you sometimes need to configure your network.
557 grml-live is used more often than grml2hd (which BTW is unsupported)
558 and grml-debootstrap. This means that (at least for our
559 participants) remastering is more common than installing Grml/Debian
560 from within Grml..This clearly shows that Grml can be considered as
561 a framework for generating and maintaining flexible Live
564 <p>Surprisingly MirBSD is used less often than FreeDOS and gPXE.</p>
566 <p>For "other" mostly non Grml-specific tools were
567 mentioned, as well as some not so well known Grml tools like
568 grml-crypt (wrapper for cryptsetup) and grml-chroot (wrapper for
569 chroot, binding /sys, /proc and /dev to the chroot) as well as
570 grml-quickstart. We plan to improve our documentation to cover those
571 not so well known tools.</p>
573 <h3><a name="bootoptions"></a>Which bootoptions do you use?</h3>
575 <img src="./img/bootoptions.png" alt="*" />
577 <p>ssh (start an ssh server while booting), toram (copy the whole cd
578 into ram) and lang (set the language) are the most commonly used
579 bootoptions, covering the common use cases. nofb at 20% was
580 unexpected. Probably there are quite a few machines where our
581 default console configuration (framebuffer) does not work.</p>
583 <p>As one user requested a way to automatically start user-supplied
584 scripts, we want to mention that there's already the
585 "script" bootoption (see <a
586 href="http://git.grml.org/?p=grml-live.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/GRML/grml-cheatcodes.txt;hb=HEAD">grml-cheatcodes.txt</a>).</p>
588 <p>Surprisingly "forensic" is also quite often mentioned
589 as bootoption. If you're interested in a special product on IT
590 forensics you might want to check out <a
591 href="http://grml-forensic.org/">Grml-Forensic</a>.</p>
593 <h3><a name="windowmanagers"></a>Which windowmanagers do you use on Grml?</h3>
595 <img src="./img/using_window_managers.png" alt="*" />
597 <p>Most common answers were fluxbox / wm-ng (Grml default) and None,
598 right in line with our design target: a proper console. Others
599 mention several small window manager like ratpoison, dwm, i3
602 <p>Because many window managers were mentioned we may reassess the
603 (re)inclusion of some small window managers.</p>
605 <h3><a name="tools"></a>Which tools would you like to see on Grml?</h3>
607 <p>Several tools mentioned here are already included in Grml like
608 for example KVM, others will not be included due to licensing
609 issues. For a complete list of packages shipped by Grml have a look
611 href="http://grml.org/files/release-2010.12/dpkg_get_selections">http://grml.org/files/release-2010.12/dpkg_get_selections
614 <p>We are currently in the process of reviewing all suggested
615 packages and may come up with details at a later date.</p>
617 <h2>Future of Grml</h2>
619 <h3><a name="flavours"></a>Which Grml-flavors make sense?</h3>
621 <img src="./img/grml_flavours.png" alt="*" />
623 <p>Grml-full seems to make sense as well as grml-small. Grml-medium
624 is not quite often used. One interesting suggestion is to combine
625 grml-small and grml-full on one CD. We don't have any plans to ship
626 this, but you can easily do this yourself with grml2iso. Another
627 suggestion was to create a special version for virtualised
628 environments named grml-virt.</p>
630 <p>While grml-medium is not as well accepted as grml-small and
631 grml-full in our community, we will continue to ship grml-medium as
632 it's the perfect and recommended starting point for customized Grml
635 <h3><a name="dvd"></a>Should we produce a DVD image instead of a CD image?</h3>
637 <img src="./img/dvd_images.png" alt="*" />
639 <p>As already stated this question was not that helpful. Nothing to
640 comment besides the graphics and what has been mentioned
643 <h3><a name="ship_windowmanagers"></a>Should we ship multiple window managers?</h3>
645 <img src="./img/window_managers.png" alt="*" />
647 <p>Although the X server isn't used that often on Grml, its users
648 commonly want to use their favourite window manager. As already
649 stated we will reassess the (re)inclusion of some small window
650 managers because of your answers.</p>
652 <h3><a name="debian_stable"></a>Do you use Grml packages on Debian-Stable?</h3>
654 <img src="./img/grml_packages_on_debian.png" alt="*" />
656 <p>Installation of Grml packages on Debian is a rare occurrence,
657 except for grml2usb on Debian stable. Consensus is to not put too
658 much effort into it.</p>
660 <h3><a name="what_should_be_changed"></a>What else should be changed in Grml?</h3>
662 <p>Besides some UX things like better artwork/no links (the browser)
663 after startup in X.org etc. most feedback was quite positive. We got
664 some detailed suggestions like better wireless configuration,
665 automatic selection of the kernel in multiarch environments, and
666 others. We are looking into your requests.</p>
668 <h2>Anything else?</h2>
670 <h3><a name="wishlist"></a>Wishlist for improvements on Grml</h3>
672 <p>We got some really nice ideas like inclusion of support for other
673 boot images in our GRUB environment or multiarch CDs. Better
674 documentation as well as some How-tos was also mentioned several
675 times. Oh and more professionalism for our wallpapers. It seems that
676 at least in one work environment our wallpaper caused some
679 <h3><a name="famous_last_words"></a>Did we forget anything? Any famous last words?</h3>
681 <p>This is again mainly positive things, so just some examples:</p>
685 <li>I hate to disagree with the devs oft stated opinion, but grml
686 is still the best desktop installer to create a usable desktop
687 environment, because everything just works out of the box, and has
688 no distro specific absurdities, like the famous debian forks.</li>
690 <li>Great distro, truley a masterpiece of work.</li>
692 <li>grml is 2 percent Jazz, 98 percent funky stuff ... </li>
694 <li>It is great and it is debian</li>
696 <li>Why don't you get rid of this strange ZSH and switch to the
697 industry standard bash?!?! Haha, j/k :-)</li>
699 <li>Simple: Grml rocks! Thanks for the great work. </li>
701 <li>The answer must be, of course, 42.</li>
703 <li>United as one! Divided by zero!</li>
705 <li>I like the cool distribution names!</li>
707 <li>Thanks guys, I appreciate the work you've put into this
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