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- <h1>Contact us</h1>
+ <h1>Contact</h1>
- <p>For general questions please join the <a href="/mailinglist/">Grml user mailinglist</a>.</p>
+ <p>For general questions please join the Grml user mailinglist (see below).</p>
- <p>If you have found a bug
or want to request new packages, please <a href="/bugs/">report that here</a>.</p>
+ <p>If you have found a bug please <a href="/bugs/">report that here</a>.</p>
- <p>For commercial support and services please send us a mail to business (at) grml.org.</p>
+ <p>For commercial support and services please send us a mail
+ to business (at) grml.org.</p>
+
+ <a name="mailinglist"></a>
+ <h2>Mailing lists</h2>
+
+ <p>If you want to be noticed when a <strong>new Grml
+ release</strong> is available subscribe to the
+ read-only <a href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml-announce">Grml
+ announce mailinglist</a>.</p>
+
+ <p>If you want to participate on the <strong>mailinglist of
+ Grml</strong> please subscribe to the <a
+ href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml">Grml user
+ mailinglist</a>. Anyone can post to this mailinglist list, but if you
+ are not already subscribed, your message will be moderated. In this way,
+ we limit the amount of spam entering the message lists. The Grml user
+ mailinglist is available <a
+ href="http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.grml.user">via
+ gmane</a> as well.</p>
+
+ <p>If you are interested in following <strong>development of
+ Grml</strong> you might be interested in the <a
+ href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml-devel">Grml developer
+ mailinglist</a>. The <a
+ href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/git-commits">Grml repository
+ commits mailinglist</a> tracks all the pushed commits to <a
+ href="http://git.grml.org/">Grml's git repositories</a>. Changes in
+ Grml's Debian repository can be tracked via the <a
+ href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml-testing-changes">Grml
+ Testing-changes mailinglist</a>. The <a
+ href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/bugs-changes">bug-changes</a>
+ mailinglist tracks all messages sent to <a
+ href="http://bts.grml.org/">Grml's Bug Tracking System</a>.</p>
+
+ <p><strong>Notice:</strong> All Grml mailinglists are <strong>english
+ only</strong>.</p>
+
+ <a name="irc"></a>
+ <h2>IRC</h2>
+
+ <p>You can find us at <a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/grml">#grml on
+ irc.freenode.org</a>. Channel language is english.</p>
</div>
+++ /dev/null
-Latest change: Sam Feb 13 02:36:36 CET 2010 [mika]
-
-Grml Developer Meeting on IRC - 2010-01-07
-==========================================
-
-Present and active
-------------------
-
-Official start at 21:00 CET.
-
-* formorer [joined at 23:07, left at 00:13]
-* ft [left at 00:32]
-* gebi [left at 00:50]
-* jimmy [left at 23:40]
-* mika
-* mrud
-* Rhonda [left around 23:54]
-
-Official/final end at 01:09 CET.
-
-Topics
-------
-
-* Mirror infrastructure:
- - which is our main mirror? [Rhonda / formorer]
- - who can update it and how? [Rhonda / formorer]
- - policies/guidelines/howto for 3rd party mirrors [Rhonda / mika]
- - git repos grml-mirrors + grml-mirrors-private [mika: done]
- - collect 3rd party mirror admin information? [Rhonda]
- - geolocation? -> download.grml.org [formorer]
- - Use additional checksum like sha1/sha256? [mika - done]
-
-* Grml-Homepage:
- - make it based on a .git repository for collaborative editing
- - convert to ikiwiki [technical part: formorer, structural part: mika]
- - git repos grml-homepage [mika: done]
- - integrate wiki.grml.org in main grml.org structure
- - integrate http://grml.org/online-docs/ in ikiwiki structure
- - mrud will work on a css layout that matches the current layout of grml.org
-
-* Switch to Debian/testing as base?
- - No, keep unstable as a base: as we still want to continue doing Q/A work with
- daily builds and a switch to testing might lead to pinning-hell we decided to
- continue as until now [team decision]
-
-* Q/A work:
- - autotesting system based on KVM for daily ISOs [mrud + mika]
- http://people.redhat.com/~dhowells/keyutils/rhts_environment.sh
-
-* Sources:
- - continue providing sources.grml.org
- - in the long term let's establish our own daily debian-mirror
- - generate daily snapshots of grml's mirror ("reprepro gensnapshot grml-testing $(date ...)")
- - fallback to snapshots.debian.org (currently: http://stabile.debian.org:5001/)
-
-* How could we improve the boot process? Making sure that an ISO tries to boot
- exactly the same version and doesn’t boot another system from harddisk.
-
- Concept:
-
- - each ISO (*not* squashfs specific) provides a file named /boot/uuid.txt
- * if this file isn't present just continue booting as until now
-
- - bootloader provides uuid=$CONTENT_OF_uuid.txt to kernel's cmdline
-
- - unless isofrom= or nfsroot= are specified on cmdline bootfrom=removable is used
-
- - initramfs reads /proc/cmdline and check argument of uuid= bootoption
-
- - initramfs scans devices for precense of /boot/uuid.txt and if it exists
- validate against uuid=... of /proc/cmdline
- * match: boot
- * does not match: continue searching
-
- Use cases:
-
- - live ISO: grml-live provides according uuid.txt and bootloader config OOTB:
- nothing to do
-
- - copying ISO to harddisk: if using isofrom=... then the files on harddisk are
- considered for use, otherwise the devices aren't scanned at all by default
- because of bootfrom=removable
-
- - grml2{usb,iso} grml.iso grml64.iso /dev/sdX: grml2{usb,iso} generates a
- *new* /boot/uuid.txt on the device and adjusts bootloader configuration
- accordingly
-
- - PXE boot: works OOTB because nfsroot=... is present
-
- TODOs:
-
- - implement uuidgen > <install>/boot/uuid.txt in grml-live [mika]
- - implement according toolchain for live-initramfs [mika]
- - adjust grml2usb, grml2iso,... accordingly then [mrud]
-
- => implemented
-
-* Grub1 and Grub2 shipping on one ISO
- - jimmy will work on a grub1 Debian package
- - contact upstream so efforts could be brought to Debian
-
-* Autobuild setup for Debian packages
- - wanna-build like feature in reprepro with sbuild [formorer]
-
-* Grml's Roundup is spammed. How to resolve this?
- - make sure removing users works again [mika/mrud/formorer]
- - make sure removing messages works [mika/mrud/formorer]
-
-* Redmine as project management/bts/homepage/wiki/....?
- - homepage: no (ikiwiki)
- - wiki: no (-> ikiwiki)
- - bts / project management: would be nice, yes [formorer will check out the
- performance issue]
-
-* Workflow with Git and policy how we create and maintain Debian packages
- - upstream sources in .git vs. debian/-only
- - needs further discussion, gebi will have a look at workflow from
- http://people.debian.org/~mika/forensics/maintainer.html
-
-* grml-policy:
- - should be extended according to our recent development
-
-* Unify code as much as possible, discuss how we could create/provide a
- grml-core package.
- - grml-core: distinguish between grml-specific function, like
- checkbootparam/islivecd and check4root...
- - grml-lsb: provide /etc/grml/lsb-functions
- - remove unecessary stuff from grml-etc-core (move to grml-lsb and grml-core)
- - let grml-{scripts,shlib,autoconfig} use grml-core
- - provide stuff that's shared/used within
- grml-{setlang,lang,keyboard,autoconfig} through grml-core
-
-* get rid of release-stoppers
- - run a BSP
-
-* Left for further discussions / needs further investigation:
- - grml-API
- - Switch to isolinux as boot loader for hybrid cds?
- - Upgrade to aufs2?
- - Kernel stuff
- - Unify bootoptions stuff (grml-cheatcodes.txt documentation and definition)
- - DSL for defining bootoptions (ssh, nofb,...) and further processing
- for according bootloader(s) - long-term goal [mrud]
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-
- <h1>IRC</h1>
-
- <p>You can meet us at <a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/grml">#grml on
- irc.freenode.org</a>. Channel language is english by default,
- though most of Grml's developers speak german as well.</p>
-
- <p>Get <a href="http://irssi.org/documentation/startup">irssi</a> and join
- us! If you are running Grml and have network access just run irssi and
- you will be auto connected to the grml-channel.</p>
-
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-
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-
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-
- <h1>Mailinglist</h1>
-
- <p>If you want to be noticed when a <strong>new Grml
- release</strong> is available subscribe to the
- read-only <a href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml-announce">Grml
- announce mailinglist</a>.</p>
-
- <p>If you want to participate on the <strong>mailinglist
- of Grml</strong> please subscribe to
- the <a href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml">Grml
- user mailinglist</a>. Anyone can post to this
- mailinglist list, but if you are not already subscribed,
- your message will be moderated. In this way, we limit
- the amount of spam entering the message lists. The Grml
- user mailinglist is
- available <a href="http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.grml.user">via
- gmane</a> as well.</p>
-
- <p>If you are interested in following <strong>development
- of Grml</strong> you might be interested in
- the <a href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml-devel">Grml
- developer
- mailinglist</a>. The <a href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/git-commits">Grml
- repository commits mailinglist</a> tracks all the pushed
- commits to <a href="http://git.grml.org/">Grml's git
- repositories</a>. Changes in Grml's Debian repository
- can be tracked via
- the <a href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml-testing-changes">Grml
- Testing-changes
- mailinglist</a>. The <a href="http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/bugs-changes">bug-changes</a>
- mailinglist tracks all messages sent
- to <a href="http://bts.grml.org/">Grml's Bug Tracking
- System</a>.</p>
-
- <p><strong>Notice:</strong> All Grml mailinglists are
- <strong>english only</strong>.</p>
-
- </div>
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